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300 dollars to the winner-good luck

noblefuse — Fri, 23 May 2008 20:12:58 GMT

I will give 300 dollars to the first physics department that simply repeats my experiment and verify safe nuclear fusion- I would give more-but i am a lonely garage inventor who has sacrificed my entire life to find answers and ran completely broke doing it- upon a successful experiment last year in which concludes the following statement- I HAVE SOLVED THE ENERGY CRISIS. i quickly placed the video of such experiment and ALL information for a world to repeat freely on the net.

I dont know anyone- so i come on myspace-facebook-energy blogs- a hundred places- and no one believes me- but i dont care if you do- just replicate my experiment and see yourself-

one catch- my experiment is very dangerous- i hand built a one million volt tesla coil to prove my 5 year ideology- thus- no one has the guts so far- but more important than that- no one in any of these forums passes the information along in order to be true- why- i guess no immediate reward for you- however- watching television lately- you should understand energy is the key to many things-

THUS, i will scrap together 300 dollars and give it to a physics department that takes a tesla coil and run the secondary upon the dielectric of heavy water to verify i have concluded the most simplest form of clean energy production ever to the civilization of mankind-

go to the following link to find my experiment critiques and my website noblefuse- good luck

solomon sami azar/noblefuse/

who am I- this is the link to my experiments

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Talk:Directory:Noblefuse_Electromagnetic_Fusion

website

http://noblefuse.com/

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The End of Death

chris — Wed, 16 Apr 2008 03:47:14 GMT

I beieve that in my child's generation they will learn some key and lock something about the DNA helix that will enable scientists to halt the aging process-I guess at whatever age the person is.

My luck they will accomplish that when I am 82-eternity at 82 y.o.?

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To the citizens of Iran and North Korea- my name is solomon azar,

noblefuse — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 12:39:37 GMT

To the citizens of Iran and North Korea- my name is solomon azar, an american citizen with an unquestionable love and devotion for my country and the founder of a new ideology of power generation which shall lead to an end of the energy crisis and talks of greenhouse gases-

both of your countries are starving for energy- thus- your pursuit of a nuclear power division in which the west is scared of is understood- i have the solution- i propose safe clean nuclear fusion and if you grab hold of this ideology and implement it before the west- you will demonstrate clearly to the world you are even if not greater in pursuit of nobility than the west-

I believe america is brain dead- selfish and arragant. i dont know it anymore- i grew up with the duke and all the things great about america. i grew up FULLY aware this country is built upon the blood sweat and tears of many in america but by far the greatest generation that has sacrificed for this country- I speak of those who endured the great depression of america- who then marched off to war and defended freedom and secured an energy policy and richness this country has lavished in since and to this very day. but without question the baby boom generation of the fifties and sixties surely seen the best times of this country as they have squandered the bounty off.

it is understandable to spoil your children- but the gluttony of America and its policy of 'he who has the most toys wins" or "dog eat dog" has sold off our assets- moved all major manufacturing over seas for corporate greed in which the ceos made billions as the middle class erode- etc-etc-

the media and fantastic device of the internet only devised within this decade are grounds for playrooms and stupidity-

I am an American proposing clean unlimited energy as the world burns for energy and screams for greenhouse gases- and I am ignored by the vast majority who just hear me scream and do nothing- arrogant scientists who get paid so much for comfort dont care - peer review specialists dont care to follow up your inquiry and direct you- no one cares about energy- regular citizens in social forums dont care about nothing except sex-drugs-and rock and roll- or philosophy the way they want it--the so called enlightened ones just watch like a timid rabbit and do nothing-ENERGY is the key to civilization-PERIOD

thus- as your people know what it is like to have electricity to shut off throughout the day AND you are the back water tribe of the American intellect- here is your golden opportunity-

take my science and spread it amongst your scientists- everything is in my website of noblefuse- all of it to the trained eye- finish it and make a complete clean fusion power plant- no more need for dangerous fission reactors- no more west breathing down your back -more importantly- you will teach all America- as the Russians did with the early space race- how far behind this country has become- AMERICA HAS ITS HEAD UP ITS ASS_

the majority of American citizens are arrogant- selfish-and only care for themselves.

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Dragons (remains) discovered. Prehistoric sea dragon myth finnally busted. Hallettestoneion Seazoria Dragons. Utah USA

Seazoria — Wed, 28 May 2008 23:06:07 GMT

Here is a new subject to look into for out of the box thinkers. While working in commercial excavation out here in Utah, just below an ancient sea shore we began digging up very large prehistoric sea dragon remains. At first we just thought that the rocks were just regular old stones. Closer examination reviled that the individual stone from the surface down to a depth of 45 feet below the surface were arranged in the exact configurations of very large, highly evolved prehistoric marine reptiles. The only way to figure out that the sea dragon burial matrix was to work in excavation, because nobody would ever look at the rocks as prehistoric biology. Getting past the size and age barrier is the hardest obstacle for people to overcome. This discovery could only be made by someone working in excavation. When your job description involves opening up the earth 10 hours a day, five days a week you begin to gain a 3 dimensional perspective of exactly how theses prehistoric sea dragons have been preserved

To date i have studied and watched the destruction of nearly 200 Hallettestoneion Seazoria Dragons. The dragon remains are currently miss classified as geological. That is why the pale ontological establishment has overlooked the dragons. If anyone might be interested in looking at some of the remains we are currently excavating and examining you can view the Seazoria Dragon discovery website at www.seazoria.com look for the shape, forget rocks and look how the shape of the teeth and spikes are always created in five sided triangular wedges. We have included some prehistoric sharks teeth for comparative analysis. Geology (rocks) are formed, Biology is created. Look for the complex repeating biological structures that are created in complex right or left handed configurations only.

Leave comments because it allow our research project a greater insight in how to more effectively communicate the Seazoria dragon discovery. The Hallettestoneion Seazoria Dragons are between 130 to 300 feet in overall length with teeth that average more than 27 inches. The Seazoria Dragon graveyards are located in northern Utah just below an ancient sea shore carved by the pacific ocean 540 million years ago. After extensive comparison to other forms of advanced prehistoric biology (dinosaurs). The Seazoria dragons are the most evolutionarily advanced forms of life ever discovered.

thanks Seazoria
www.seazoria.com

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einstien said

SpiritAsJeff — Wed, 21 Feb 2007 07:09:39 GMT

"we cant solve our problems with the same level of thing that created them."
ive been thinking about this a lot altely. i must have seen this quote a hundred times but failed to notice the word "level".
i mean really notice it.
i dont think he meant that we can stay on the same verticle plane of thinking and just look at things from different angles.
though that can help.
what i think he meant was to completely jump the tracks, totally move out of the linear, point a to point b thinking,
to look at things from a completely different axis of thought...
maybe from a cosmic eye view...

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hello to everyone

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Seeking Suggestions - Thanks

water_muse — Sat, 10 May 2008 00:22:49 GMT

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Thanks :)

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Big Balls of Hope

mike — Wed, 07 May 2008 02:49:47 GMT

Just look at how they shine their light brightly and spread their shine in a showery trail behind them.

Here's my idea. Comets are made up of water and carbon based molocules. We hop on one as it passes nearby with some (nuclear) device to provide heat. We melt the inside out and live inside it. We create artificial light to grow plants to live off. We split the hydrogen off the H20 to use as fuel for the engines we attach to the outside to deviate it from it's path and point it towards some other planet.

Sound fun?

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I'm looking for a chemical engineer... Know any?

bodymodlibrarian — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 03:39:52 GMT

Hello outside-the-box-thinkers! :D

I'm a graphic design student, taking a class in sustainable design, and I have a question or two that would probably be best answered by someone with a background in chemical engineering. Know any that I might be able to email?

thanks!

talia

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new related tribe - Positive Thinking (cross post)

StephanieMcWaters — Wed, 02 Apr 2008 16:21:14 GMT

Hey there, I thought that maybe some of you would be interested in this new, related tribe : D
Please join us, we would love to be able to partake of and share your thoughts, wisdoms, and positive energies with ours
Thanks!
~Stephanie

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april 1 2008- one year anniversary

noblefuse — Wed, 02 Apr 2008 00:29:19 GMT

april 1 2008- one year anniversary
Body: hello friends,

one year has now transpired upon this most technically advanced device of human creation in communication - the internet- in which I have declared "I have solved the energy crisis" and have tried to stimulate my fellowman to assist in uncovering-

to this date- there is no question the vast majority are deterred to investigate as I call myself a messenger of god- i follow my heart and the wishes of the heavens in a test and observation of the faith of humanity they have with investigating solutions for all of us-

everyone wants solutions but doesn't want to do anything to achieve them- thus- a new year begins as my only approach to have my experiments vindicated is by the faith in my fellowman to take it upon themselves and inform others.

I dont care for business, thus, i have no money interests in the most lucrative energy idea ever- but i give it all for my messenger duties-

if you think this is funny or immaterial- jump in line with many others for one complete year- when you are done- the fact remains- i solved the energy crisis under the light of god- it is my duty to place this statement amongst this incredible device connecting millions of human spirits and see what they do-

I am patiently waiting(sometimes) as to when someone or several will actually realize what the discoverer of this idea is doing- and take it upon themselves and find those in energy forums to investigate-

i will not do this alone nor pressure any single entity such as nuclear power company- why- the energy crisis is everyones problem- the heavens are testing all of us- so far- soldiers still fight for energy and the planet dies- i tell you i solved it- you just dont care/walk on by/etc etc.

let us see if this year is any different

sincerely
solomon azar

p.s.

i see some beginning to understand my process and experiments

http://peswiki. com/index. php/Talk:Directory:Noblefuse_Electromagnetic_Fusion

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A new tribe dedicated to humor

Shadow — Sat, 29 Mar 2008 15:30:05 GMT

This tribe is dedicated to comedy. Whether just good humor, funny statements, jokes, video clips, audio tracks, people who like to laugh, adult jokes, humorous moments in life(Even if they didn't seem that way, at that moment), funny shows, books and movies, etc.
I have been finding, entirely too much seriousness on tribe.net, so..... I created a place for people to come laugh, share humor and relax after a stressful day, night, a nap, lol.
Personally, I am tiring of all the "deep thoughts", argument tribes and tribes that don't follow their main purpose.
Life's too short to spend dedicated to battling.
Life is never too short, for a good laugh.
http://tribes.tribe.net/laughingwithlife

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i give up

noblefuse — Mon, 11 Feb 2008 19:48:26 GMT

after 9 straight months of asking my fellowman for assistance for something that will benefit their own lives- i give up- i obviously do not know how to properly ask - I have been trying to ring the bell and get attention to my successful experiment for the energy crisis in order for many people to see it and have it replicated and put to the test. everything i did was outside the box- maybe you guys will have better luck- by the way- if you think i have business interest- i gave up my patent registration on probably the biggest energy idea to date- my company has also gone bust many months ago- why- a spiritual mission

solomon sami azar
http://www.noblefuse.org

my last video attempt to stimulate society
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8855084931490387351

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Free Energy Celebration!

klenz752 — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:28:15 GMT

We are organizing a free energy celebration and are looking for any participants or ideas for orchestrating such an event. The idea is to inform the masses about the benefits of free energy for communities and our environment and the repression of free energy by certain governments/corporations. We plan on using pamphlets, movies, music, public speakers, dvds, floats, and food to create an effective celebration and appeal to a diverse group of people. It's time to take matters into our own hands and defend the defenseless!

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Flame wars... and orthodoxy

RPMcMurphy — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 16:36:15 GMT

Flame wars are a causal loop of systematic thinking...
the process is predestined to bring you back to the same place you began...
and the process starts all over again... continuing endlessly.

It is systematic...
because it is an Us vs. Them meme...

it is unorthodox to do something that benefits others... instead of yourself.

Flaming usually ruins threads and has a predictable outcome of the manifestation of personal grudge instead of the original topic.
Change is unorthodox.

Remaining in the system of flame and response... is orthodox.

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visions of granduer

noblefuse — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:06:21 GMT

Visions of grandeur-

So now I see another hot spot in the world erupt- between Serbia and Kosovo- between Muslims and Christians-

Some say America was enticed by way of incentive to invade Iraq for oil/energy- however, most enlightened minds know it is for the security of Israel- for how can one single Arab country be strong with a Jewish neighbor- America is a good friend to the Jewish people

And the Christian controlled Americans find themselves at a never ending war with fundamental Islam

Islam-Christian - Jewish- whatever - what on this gods green earth can forge peace between these forces of god-

According to all of them- it is a messenger of god- a messiah-

So here I come in- I believe I am the messiah

I have heard many definitions of a messiah from everyone’s opinion- these are some of the reasons why I believe I am the chosen one-
1. my first name Solomon means peace
2. my last name azar is the father of Abraham in the bible-it is also the name of fire in the first recorded reliogen of the planet- zorasterian in which moses of the jews was believed to be of- if no the entire start of the jewish ideals
3. I was born Christian into an Arabic family- I have not only learned the ways of prejudism between arab Christians and arab muslims- but all kinds of racist remarks since a child growing up in america without any physical major feature to an arab race most human beings try to judge another by- thus I blended in- a black man in a white skin suit will hear many disturbing things- but so will any group of people anywhere if they listen to the “other side”
4. it is evident by my physical features- I possess dna traits from all parts of the world- what is in you
5. they say 10 percent have seen a ufo- 60 percent believe in advanced entities of the universe- I gave openly upon the net my observation of a ufo in 1987- I not only seen it- it communicated with me- I did not see any funny looking aliens- only in the movies- I seen no spaceship- but a major exhibition of light/energy-power- I believe god controls all things
6. I hear many human beings say we are all messengers of god- what was your message- mine was to stand as messiah and it started in 1998-
7. no one likes to be told of god-it is our duty to figure it out- look how you treat religious persons coming to your door- or airports- don’t tell me what to believe is the common theme- it is understandable- it is our test of faith as human upon the magical blue planet-thus it is evident a messenger must bring a gift or miracle in order to have a very arragont and strong character to resist of species-man- to listen- I believe with full conviction I have solved our energy crisis- to not walk on water- but to deliver it for unlimited energy
8. 2 hasidic jews from absolutely nowhere happen to view the very first time I conducted my experiment by looking into my door at that moment- my life is filled with many funny coincidences which paint a picture- I have given many upon the net- there are many more- - who can possibly walk in your own shoes if you yourself tried to describe your observations

There is more- so much more-but who really with sound mind and body actually stand for such a title- I find it interesting to search upon the net- a wonderful invention of recent times- and I find I am the only one out of millions upon the net that will repeatedly make this statement- I back it up with writings and videos of my character- if you ask me- I would love to have an open democratic debate as we do in politics and have a messiah elected- for surely- only the true messiah would stand for such a position and endure the hardship of running for such position- this is my intention if the public ever comes together put a stop to such statements- I am not an alien or some god- but there is no question in my biased opinion I have been guided/used by the heavens over my entire life and if a society believes in a god- why not be inside me as the holy spirit in order to do their deeds- how long can you ignore a human being with such conviction-

Visions of grandeur to help my fellowman- or am I the messiah on a mission by the heavens- I have said this since day one upon the net- when my words of science bring clean energy for all of us- let it be known it has been done by a messenger of god-time will tell

<a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8855084931490387351
">link to video</a><br><br> <embed style="width:400px; height:326px;" id="VideoPlayback" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" src="http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=-8855084931490387351&hl=en" flashvars=""> </embed>

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nuclear fusion of water

noblefuse — Sat, 25 Aug 2007 04:33:07 GMT

Hello, my name is Solomon. -BY THE GRACE OF GOD-I HAVE DISCOVERED THE FINAL SOLUTION TO THE ENERGY CRISIS- IF YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT-THEN HELP SPREAD THE WORD- OTHERWISE-KEEP QUIET AND NEVER GRIPE AGAIN ABOUT ENERGY OR GREENHOUSE GASES- FOR IN FRONT OF YOU IS THE SOLUTION. THE ANSWER- AS ALWAYS IN LIFE- WAS IN FRONT OF US- EVEN FALLING UPON OUR HEADS- LIGHTNING AND WATER-NIKOLA TESLA'S COIL TO MAKE MAN MADE LIGHTNING AND ALBERT EINSTEIN'S SPECIAL THEORY OF RELATIVITY HAVE BEEN COMBINED TO ADVANCED MANKIND INTO THE 21ST CENTURY-FINALLY- BOTH OF THESE MENS ACOMPLISHMENTS CAN NOW BE FULLY HARNESSED----unlimited energy VIA NUCLEAR FUSION OF WATER-go to www.noblefuse.com/nfg6.pdf-----***************facts: albert einstein wrote famous paper in 1905. not recognized until 1912 by a famous scientists willing to back him up- as no one wants to put up their reputation for someone unknown. einstein was not proved correct until 1921 on the orbit of mercury- and not for e=mc^2 until the year 1933. HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE IN THIS CASE FOR CLEAN ENERGY??????????????????????????????????THE SOONER NUCLEAR SCIENTISTS UNDERSTAND THIS TRUTH-THE ENERGY CRISIS IS OVER- AND MAYBE WE CAN BRING 150,000 US TROOPS HOME-USE CLEAN ENERGY TO FUEL A UNIFIED WORLD THAT STANDS TOGETHER UNDER THE REALM OF GOD

please see more at noblefuse

or noblefuse.com

www.myspace.com/noblefuse

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Eckhart Tolle: models for approaching crisis and conflict..

zigo — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 03:42:20 GMT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lx526pO9UV0

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MYSTICISM

dominic — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:18:33 GMT

COMMONALITY AMONGST THE WORLD'S MYSTICS:

If you study the life of past mystics you'll find they share several things in common:

First, they all speak of an induction – or of a need to learn/realize a new level of understanding. They all speak of a fundamental shift in consciousness (be it called awakening, realization, divination, or being born again).

Second they all tell of making a journey into and through a despair process of being “undone” as the precursor to this fundamental shift in consciousness -- be it through experiencing 40 days and nights in the wilderness, starving under the boddhi tree, facing the dark night of the soul, or the hero’s journey. There is a Journey of metamorphosis that all mystics have undergone in some way.

Third, it is an inner journey that must be taken up and navigated alone. This is a hallmark of the mystic’s realization: The reason the journey must be alone is because that which must be faced, seen, and surrendered in order that something new can emerge, is only possible through sustaining the fear and despair process of being alone and meeting the ultimate and fundamental fear of “non-being” and annihilation.

Fourth, they all seem to realize the frustration of being misunderstood by those who have not yet been through the awakening journey -- “those who have ears to hear, let him hear.” A great deal of the mystical writings are devoted almost exclusively to the fact that fundamental spiritual truth cannot be understood by the intellect nor correctly put into words. Forever, the great spiritual teachers have tried through the insufficiency of words to point toward that which can ever and only be experienced and known on a level that is before and beyond the mind. This is something unfathomable to those who have not yet had this breakthrough revelation - and particularly so in our contemporary culture that has become so overly reliant and blinded by the limiting paradigm of the scientific method that forever reduces our understanding of intelligence to that which is sensory, measurable and linear in nature. (...Life isn't (only or always) linear .. In fact it rarely is, except in man-made constructions and habituated uses of the mind.)

Please join us at this forum
http://groups.msn.com/TheInternationalMysticalOrderofKnightTemplars/_whatsnew.msnw

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Project Chanology, Anonymous hackers, and taking down Scientology

UncleFishbits — Sat, 02 Feb 2008 18:11:45 GMT

Taking down Scientology isn't just important... it's fun!!!!!

http://www.partyvan.info/index.php/Project_Chanology
the hackers have a lot of explanation above.....

http://www.economist.com/world/international/displaystory.cfm?story_id=10609174
the economist article about the DOS attacks on Scientology, and the real world protest 10th Feb.

Guys... you could be part of bringing a religion down during your lifetime. You can help destroy a dangerous cult. Read up, think about it, and offer your services where you can.
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Full Text of Economist Article:

Scientology
Fair game

Jan 31st 2008
From The Economist print edition
An online onslaught against Scientology

A VICIOUS cult run by cynical fraudsters, or a sincerely held religious belief persecuted by zealots? That is the long-standing row about Scientology, founded by the late science-fiction writer, L. Ron Hubbard. In some countries, such as Germany, the group is watched by the security services. In others, such as America and Australia, it has won charitable status as a religion.

Until now the fight could mostly be seen as one-sided. Scientology's lawyers are vigorous litigants. The group argues that its internal materials (which claim, among other things, that expensive courses of treatment can help rid people of infestation by alien souls from an extinct civilisation) are commercially confidential and protected by copyright. They react sharply to any perceived libel.

As a result, public critics of what they derisively term “$cientology” risk expensive legal battles. For example, a new unauthorised biography of Tom Cruise by a British author, Andrew Morton, contains detailed and highly critical material about the film star's involvement in Scientology. It is a bestseller in America but has not been published in Britain. The publisher, St Martin's Press, has even asked internet booksellers not to ship it to foreign customers. Though Scientology representatives vehemently deny breaking any laws, critics have claimed that they experience intensive harassment and intimidation.

Now Scientology is under attack from a group of internet activists known only as Anonymous. Organised from a Wikipedia-style website (editable by anyone) and through anonymous internet chat rooms, “Project Chanology”, as the initiative is known, presents no easy target for Scientology's lawyers. It is promoting cyberwarfare techniques normally associated with extortionists, spies and terrorists. Called “distributed denial of service attacks”, these typically involve using networks of infected computers to bombard the target's websites and servers with bogus requests for data, causing them to crash. Even governments find this troublesome.

Anonymous is also hoping to galvanise public opinion with a mass “real-world” protest outside every Scientology office worldwide on February 10th. But its best weapon may be ridicule. The group got going in reaction to efforts to ban an internal Scientology video of Mr Cruise that leaked onto the internet. The star appears to discuss his beliefs with a degree of incoherence and exaggeration that might lead some to question Scientology's effects on its adherents' sanity. A Scientology spokesman says it has been selectively edited. Several internet sites have taken it down after threats of lawsuits. But it keeps popping up.

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how do I find subjects for an experiment?

water_muse — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 22:52:37 GMT

Hi all...

I have in mind a couple of experiments I'd like to perform... These are on the order of behavioral psychology and only involve some simple "survey" type answers being given to particular stimuli. I can manufacture the stimuli (they're all value-neutral and non-controversial visual images - basically text vs. some graphs for lack of a better description). My issue is that I obviously don't work for a university and don't have any funding. So I've read plenty of case studies from scientists who've done experiments where they advertised in some paper that they wanted people for x or y (milgram experiment, bystander effect, snake phobics - don't remember the guy's name, Richard Wiseman the Luck Factor, etc) and were able to get a good broad slice of random populace for their experiment. Without any funding / budget, I don't think I can do that... I know that I've seen people post messages on websites and the like for free where they asked people to visit x site to take some survey, but I'm concerned about that producing a cross-section of the public that may not be really representative of the "average person" irrespective of economic factors (which may influence internet usage), etc.

Does anyone have any thoughts on this?

Thanks

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How can you trust your mind?

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 20:16:01 GMT

http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,21598,22492511-5005375,00.html

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jobs for Outside of the Box Thinkers

igor — Mon, 03 Apr 2006 08:39:53 GMT

Place the links like this here:

http://www.saatchi.com/worldwide/our_network.asp
"Are you an Ideas person? Do you think outside the box? Do you even refuse to recognise the existence of the box? If your imagination has been triggered by anything you’ve seen or read on this site and the words “Nothing is Impossible” excite rather than scare you, then you’re probably the type of person who’d fit well in The Ideas Company."

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GREAT FATHER

noblefuse — Sun, 09 Sep 2007 13:00:42 GMT

I want to tell you a story, of what transpired on the day of saturday-AUGUST-25-2007, four months from my awakening via my scientific discovery this previous palm Sunday. It was a hot summer day and I decided to enjoy it by floating down the Lehigh River which borders my hometown and no less than one mile from my home. The point on the river next to my home is 8 miles from where the Lehigh River enters the Delaware River, and subsequently runs approximately 30 miles thru the city of Philadelphia and into the Atlantic Ocean. I drove to a point on the river of 7 miles upstream from my hometown- I was alone and the day was absolutely beautiful in warmth and sunlight. This Lehigh River is not a raging one like the Colorado River but it has many areas in which some have perished and especially when water levels are high- but today the water level was low and crystal clear. I should mention since I was a teenager my friends and I would swim in this river- swing from Tarzan ropes and play often-I was not much for fishing-especially on the side of the banks waiting for the big tug- instead- I would make my own spear and with goggles and flippers enter the waters for a face to face encounter-ha- I say these things for you to understand I am very comfortable on this river. This solo trip for me was one of relaxation- a small children's raft from a department store suited this purpose.

Before I tell you of the trip, one should understand the captain of this vessel. On my graduation picture of my high school year book- underneath I mention some phrases as we are all required to say something- my last comment was –jamming committee. There is without question as I reflect upon my life, something I cannot nail down to a certain event, but one of which has changed my life. My pursuits previous to this were as a regular human being trying to make sense of the world handed to me by my forefathers- in school-in media-in culture-etc..However, I was always intrinsically aware of something far greater than us and what is visible-GOD and spirits- I was also very aware I had a great compassion to my fellow man- especially those that were weak and sick. I was never a bully and was very troubled by those that hurt another in speech and action. After this so called event- my eyes were fixed upon only one thought- FINDING A GREAT SCIENTIFIC DISCOVERY FOR THE BETTERMEANT OF MANKIND- this was my feeling and has been so my entire life- gravity was my target. In order for one to tackle such a grandiose goal-one must begin a self imposed mission- similar to the military- a mindset was engrained in me- a phrase I learned later in my life serves this philosophy of my life- this phrase comes from a certain tribes of native Americans of the province of British Columbia Canada- this was a phrase for their warriors- a right of passage for these warriors was to traverse 300 miles thru the rocky mountains alone- if they make it back- they are men- if not- they are in the spirit world- this is somewhat like the agogee of an ancient Sparta- here is the phrase- GO UNTIL THE BODY CAN GO NO FURTHER- THEN MOVE ON- THIS IS WHEN THE EAGLE WILL LET GO- this means so much to me- and I believe you can find something in this too—before I found this term- I made up my own naive saying in my youth- the jamming committee. To my friends- they only knew me as someone hiking in the mountains often- and I might say most of my friends have gone with me once- and most never go a second time as I my intentions were not to listen to birds- but to push the limits of physical endurance- this is what people seen of me on the outside- for the inside I was filled with the academic mission of finding gravities puzzle- and I have tried to my abilities to push this mental barrier as far as I pushed the physical. The very first place I started hiking vigorously at 17 was atop a rock called EAGLE ROCK- a large rock at the top of a mountain that overlooks the valley I live in and is directly above the Lehigh River. I used to run up and down this mountain like it was the last day on earth-to the bottom-splash in the river-and back up again- several times usually on an outing. I presume this place is called eagle rock is because it is perched atop the mountain and on its edge with truly a birds eye view. I have never seen an eagle in this area in my life- but many people see turkey vultures and some species of hawks and thus most people just say eagle rock- I can understand this. I was privileged once in my life to have a seen THE MAJESTIC AMERICAN BALD EAGLE while driving thru the rocky mountains of British Columbia- along a river bank it stood with several others and it was an amazing sight to see in person-I have also hiked the surrounding mountains and repeated to myself the phrase of the local natives of the phrase I have given- this area is truly a beautiful area- it is the highway from Vancouver BC- to Edmonton Alberta- a grand road to drive indeed thru the rocky mountains. I would also mention this very spot I believe I have seen these Eagles were at a point horizontal to a point on the opposite side of the Rocky Mountains –of the Badlands of southern Alberta (a point of my arrow in direction to MT. Sinai). LET ME SAY A FEW THINGS ABOUT THE EAGLE-

It is said the eagle was used as a national emblem because, at one of the first battles of the Revolution (which occurred early in the morning) the noise of the struggle awoke the sleeping eagles on the heights and they flew from their nests and circled about over the heads of the fighting men, all the while giving vent to their raucous cries. "They are shrieking for Freedom," said the patriots.
Thus the eagle, full of the boundless spirit of freedom, living above the valleys, strong and powerful in his might, has become the national emblem of a country that offers freedom in word and thought and an opportunity for a full and free expansion into the boundless space of the future.
--Maude M. Grant

The Eagle became the National emblem in 1782 when the great seal of the United States was adopted. The Great Seal shows a wide-spread eagle, faced front, having on his breast a shield with thirteen perpendicular red and white stripes, surmounted by a blue field with the same number of stars. In his right talon the eagle holds an olive branch, in his left a bundle of thirteen arrows, and in his beak he carries a scroll inscribed with the motto: "E Pluribus Unum."

The Bald Eagle is a sacred bird in some North American cultures- IT IS CONSIDERED THE SACRED MESSENGER

Since my discovery and my absolute belief I have uncovered the road to safe and clean nuclear fusion- all of which I have openly disclosed I have done so by the grace of GOD- my faith and understanding of the unseen world is as strong as the world of forces we see in front of us-electricity-matter-what we feel and see with our eyes. I have openly said that since the age of 33 I have received many enlightened words of UNITY from my dear lord- and it was my two way communication to such an entity that I will PROUDLY GIVE YOUR WORDS WHEN I DISCOVER A MAJOR SCIENTIFIC FINDING- my reasoning was because I have embarked on such a scientific quest since the age of 17 and it is not complete- with your divine guidance I shall follow and when the day comes in which I believe I have done so- I WILL DECLARE IT TO MY FELLOW CITIZENS AS REAL AS THE WORLD I SEE AROUND ME- thus, for tens years now I have labored for such a truth- and upon the day I have been summoned to a place called the VALLEY OF THE GODS- or in native American words- WARRIORS FROZEN IN TIME- I have been honored by a ceremony by the unseen forces-FIRST I WAS BLESSED FOR MY STRENGTH TO HAVE ENDURED THIS PHASE AND MY SCIENTIFIC FINDINGS- SECONDLY-TO GIVE TESTAMENT THAT ALL I RECEIVED FOR TEN YEARS WAS TRUE-AND FINALLY- THE REASSURANCE THAT THE NEXT PHASE BEGINS AND I DO NOT STAND ALONE-AN AGE OF UNITY IS DECLARED BY THE HEAVENS-IT IS IN MY WILL THAT TO SEE HARMONY IN JERUSALEM- THE BEGINNING OF A UNIFIED WORLD SHALL FLOWER FIRST IN THE MIDDLE EAST- THIS IS WHAT I HAVE BEEN A WITNESS TO- THE SAME FIRE WHICH HAS SHOWN ITSELF TO MOSES-HAS DONE SO WITH ME AND I HAVE BEEN GIVEN A MISSION- I DO SO FOR THE LOVE OF OUR GOD AND THIS GREAT UNIVERSE—

I realize this is much to comprehend for you-and I know time will prove my statements—but until then all I can do is PREPARE FOR GLORY- I BELIEVE IT AND I NOW LIVE MY DAYS FOR SUCH-

So now you know my mind set- and here we go-floating down the Lehigh river on a glorious day to be alive indeed- when now two hours into my trip I pass EAGLE ROCK – I can see it as clear as day as I float calmly atop the WATER- I say to myself as I have done so a thousand times – go until the body can go no further-then move on –this is when the eagle will let go- my eyes turn to the right and behold- AN AMERICAN BALD EAGLE- majestically standing atop a solid branch of a mighty oak tree along the river banks- perched high above of at least 75 feet with only a slight opening of branches in which to see- WITHOUT THOUGHT AND HESITATION- I HUMBLY SAID THE WORDS- GREAT FATHER-GREAT FATHER-THANK YOU-THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU HAVE DONE-

I have been witness to a world in which we all have slightly understood- even myself all my life- I HAVE FOUND IN THE COURSE OF MY LIFE JOURNEYS- TO HAVE UNFLICHING FAITH IN OUR LORD AND ALL WHOM HAVE COME BEFORE US WHICH ARE ALIVE AND REAL-WE ARE CONNECTED TO EVERYTHING IN THIS UNIVERSE-I HAVE BEEN TOLD A GREAT MESSAGE- WHEN THE WORLD IS ONE NATION UNDER GOD-FREE FROM WARS OF OUR FELLOW MAN-WHERE EVERY HUMAN BEING IS GIVEN THE SAME TREATMENT WE WISH OUR OWN CHILDREN- THEN WE WILL NO LONGER LIVE WITH SUCH A DEMAND ON OUR FAITH- FOR GOD HIMSELF AND THE CONNECTIONS OF THE UNIVERSE TO OURSELVES WILL BE CLEAR - THE DAYS OF ONLY FIVE HUMAN SENSES WILL GROW ANOTHER IN WHICH WE CAN UNDERSTAND FULLY THE UNSEEN BUT STRONG FORCES OF GOD-

SOLOMON SAMI AZAR-

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Who Lost the Middle Ages?

Sat, 02 Jun 2007 21:49:09 GMT

Who Lost the Middle Ages?

What's behind the attempt to impose a "New Chronology" on history?

by Jason Colavito

Editor's note: An earlier version of this article ran in Lost Civilizations Uncovered in 2001. This version first appeared in Skeptic magazine v. 11, i. 2 (Summer 2004): 66-70.

In 1685, an English scholar by the name of Jean Hardouin published an edition of the Roman author Pliny's Natural History. Hardouin, however, had an unusual belief about its origins. He was convinced that all of the ancient records of Greece and Rome were forgeries perpetrated by Benedictine monks, and that all of the Greco-Roman artifacts were similarly faked. By the time of his death in 1729, he had not provided a reason why the Benedictines would fake so much history, nor a shred of evidence to back up his claims. (1)

Today an intellectual successor to Hardouin claims that it is not classical antiquity that was forged, but instead the history of the Middle Ages. Russian mathematician Anatoly Fomenko has devised a system he calls the "New Chronology" that he says firmly establishes the fictive nature of the medieval epoch. The University of Moscow professor published a book called Antiquity in the Middle Ages: Greek and Bible History, in which he argues that the written record of human history should be condensed from thousands of years into hundreds of years. For Fomenko, history unfolded not over millennia but centuries.

The English edition of the book was published in September 2003, under the title History: Fiction of Science, with a lurid cover featuring the crucified Christ, but it is not necessary to buy the book to learn about Fomenko's theories. Before the book's translation, he published a 29,000-word summary of his findings online. This opus, written with G. V. Nosovskij, is grandly titled "New Chronology and New Concept of the English History: British Empire as a Direct Successor of the Byzantine-Roman Empire," and it commits as great an assault on the English language as it does on English history. Nevertheless, it is an important and illuminating look at a new wave of alternative history, a history that appeals to Russians because it is designed to restore to post-Soviet Russia some of the power and greatness of its past.

Fomenko begins by telling his readers that English history is flawed and broken. He argues that the source texts used to create our understanding of Britain from the Roman occupation to William the Conqueror are misdated: "In correct version, ancient and medieval English events am to be transferred to the epoch which begins from 9-10th cc [centuries]. Moreover, many of these events prove to be the reflections of certain events from real Byzantine-Roman history of 9-15th cc. Consequently, the Great Britain Empire is a direct successor of medieval Byzantine Empire." (2)

Say What?

According to Fomenko, there were originally four sources of historical knowledge, books which he refers to as A, B, C, and D. The latter three were imperfect copies of A--the True History. Over time as they were copied and recopied each became so garbled that the four books were eventually assumed to be four separate histories rather than flawed copies of one narrative. Therefore, when late medieval scribes set about writing history, they accidentally made history four times longer than it should have been by repeating the same history four times. Fomenko believes this accounts for "similarities" he has found in the different periods of human history. More importantly, this discovery allows him to reconstruct the True History by collapsing the four histories into a few hundred years.

He calls this compressed version the "fibred" [fiber structure] chronicle. The three chronicles B, C, and D were embedded into A by considering each one as a rigid block and shifting them forward by approximately 333, 1053, and 1778 years respectively. (3)

How did Dr. Fomenko decide how far to shift his dates? The answer goes to the heart of why his theory makes little sense. He says he decided to apply his knowledge of advanced mathematics to the study of history. He began by studying the astronomical phenomena recorded in Ptolemy's Almagest, a text from the second century CE that catalogued the positions of 1,028 stars and introduced the concept of the epicycle to explain the retrograde motion of the planets. Fomenko is of the opinion that the Almagest actually records astronomical phenomena from the 7th to the 13th century CE. He detailed his reasoning in Geometrical and Statistical Methods of Analysis of Star Configurations. Dating Ptolemy's Almagest. Without getting into the complex mathematics, the Fomenko method of analyzing the stars does not quite prove his point. Even though he assigns a small margin of error to Ptolemy's figures, he must then assume that Ptolemy's values are largely without error in order to arrive at "true" dates. A small error in value on the part of Ptolemy could--and does--throw all Fomenko's calculations to the wind.

Using this eccentric interpretation, Fomenko proceeds to declare that on this basis all historical chronology is wrong. The Roman Empire, he claims, actually began in the 9th century, and its Eastern half, condescendingly called Byzantine, was the true model for all history. ("Byzantine" was a derogatory term associated with paganism used by the Holy Roman Empire to discredit its eastern rival.) Cutting to the chase, Fomenko concludes that British history is really Byzantine history, that the English kings were British renamings of the Byzantine Emperors, and that all of this history was fabricated when refugees from the fallen Byzantine capital "returned" to England in 1453 and brought their history to the barbarian island. (4)

He counts Cenwalch of Wessex and Sussex (643-672 CE) as the first "English" king, and he says his reign is the British duplicate (or reinterpretation) of the Eastern Roman Theodosius the Great (378-395 CE), for no particular reason other than the 275 year shift in time that makes it match "New Chronology." But to make them equivalent, Fomenko can only use Cenwalch's reign over Wessex (647-672). Even then, his 25-year reign still does not match Theodosius' 16-year stay on the throne. Nevertheless, this error of more than 50% is still considered a parallel.

His other parallels, even after a double reordering of Byzantine monarchs (they were themselves duplicated twice, you see), are still not very accurate. Beorhtric (ruled 16 years) is equated to Justin I (ruled 9 years), an error of almost 78%. Fomenko links Aethelbert (6 years) to Justin II (13 years), an error of over 1013%. He has to combine Zeno's two reigns (over a period of, but not totaling, 17 years) to match the English Cuthread (17 years).

Fomenko does manage, however, a couple of good "hits." He links Egbert, the uniter of England (ruled 38 years), to Justinian the Great, restorer of the Roman Empire (ruled 38 years). But then he combines King Edgar (16 years) with King Edward the Martyr (3 years) and claims they both represent Leo III the Isaurian (24 years). He concludes that the names Edgar and Edward are "similar and consequently their union is natural." (5) Of course, the eleven Emperors Constantine (and the additional Emperors named Constans and Constantius) were apparently readily distinguished by the barbarians.

His entire theory depends on his idea that history is merely the chronicle of the reigns of monarchs, and that the mathematical relationships between their reigns is as sound as the mathematically relationship of two sides of an algebraic equation. This is nonsense of the worst kind, made worse by the fact that Fomenko had to actively rewrite Byzantine history to get his correlation to match the English history he so badly wants to appropriate (requiring tolerances, as we have shown, of up to 100%).

In short, Fomenko cut and pasted the Emperors in any order he chose to make them conform as closely as he could to selected monarchs of England's past. But even more damaging to his argument claiming that there are mathematical correlations between English and Byzantine rulers is the fact that he has to discount virtually every other fact known about the two cultures. Fomenko claims that Byzantine history from 1143-1453 CE is a mistaken duplicate of history from 830-1143 CE. If this were true, then why would the "fictional" or "duplicate" monarchs of the later period all have coins prominently displaying theft names and portraits? If the rulers of two Byzantine periods and England were one and the same, why should their lives and loves, their triumphs and tragedies differ markedly through "error" and "exaggeration" while the same chroniclers doggedly preserved the length of their reigns?

For that matter, how can we expect to believe Fomenko's arguments since Imperial coinage that documents the succession of the emperors can be gathered from virtually every year from 27 BCE to 1453 CE? How do we discount written Roman history and the great rains of the past? Further, if Fomenko is correct, we must ignore the Magna Carta of 1215, since England's King John would have been nothing more than a Byzantine fantasy. Paradoxically, Fomenko endorses the reality of the Crusades, perhaps because he thinks the Crusaders brought Byzantine history to back England. If so, one immediately wonders how feudalism, Catholicism, and every structure and artifact associated with the High Middle Ages developed spontaneously in the mere 50 years he allots between Rome and the Renaissance. To suggest that the British built medieval England from a Roman England that he claims lasted only from the 9th to 10th centuries is a feat that contradicts all known ideas about the development of civilization.

Fomenko also ignores other lines of evidence. He does not account for the chronological continuity of the Roman Catholic popes, or the well-dated series of Church Councils and Papal Bulls. He completely dismisses the radiocarbon evidence that dates artifacts from Rome and the Middle Ages to the accepted timetable and not to his own revised chronology.

Pushing his ideas still further, Fomenko argues that our confusion about the True Dates derives from the old English use of the term "Year of Grace" as a synonym for Anno Domini, A.D. He extrapolates: "Maybe the original (and now forgotten) meaning of a formula 'Years of Grace' differs from one which is accepted today. Maybe it was 'years in Greece.' 'Greek years' or something like this." (6) And of course, since he claims Greece was another name for the Byzantine Empire, ipso facto Christian years become Byzantine years and England becomes the Byzantine Empire, Q.E.D. To be fair, Fomenko concedes this argument is not strong, but he bases his thesis on sound-alike names, even claiming that the continent of Asia really means "Jesus-land." Grace derives from the Latin gratia, thanks or goodwill; Greece is from the Latin Graecia, their word for the Hellenes. Jesus was several centuries too late to get naming fights to Asia, already called that in ancient Greek times.

None of these facts stop Fomenko from also claiming that the name "England" derived from the Byzantine dynasty of the Angeli. They are not related. In fact, the dynastic name of the three Emperors surnamed Angelus is Latin and is a Westernized version of its Greek original, angeloi. The name England derives from the Old English for "Land of the Angles," as opposed to the Saxons. The Angles derive their name from the Latin angli which bears no relation to the word for angel, angelus. Angli was the name given to a branch of the river Suevi in Germany. Tacitus, in his "Germania" from the Opera Minora, names the river so, and around 450 CE the people of the Angli river united with the Saxons to invade England. Check it yourself with the Perseus Project dictionary. (7)

Nevertheless, despite lacking facts and evidence, Fomenko's world-view argues that history is a massive fraud: "Roughly speaking, ancient English chronicles are in fact Byzantine chronicles which were taken from Byzantine to England and then modified in a such way that they seem to speak about events in England." (8) Yet to make his case Fomenko has to massacre history and ignore the archaeological evidence from the island and from Constantinople. He has to willfully manipulate the historical record in the very way he accuses the medieval English of doing. And to what end?

Well, that answer is quite simple. Fomenko is Russian, so it is not surprising that Fomenko "discovered" that Russia was the source of universal empire and that its culture gave rise to England. That explains his Byzantine chauvinism, for the Russian czars (= Caesars) saw themselves as the legitimate successors to the Byzantine emperors through the miracle of shared faith in the (then united) Orthodox Church. If England could be shown to "really" be Byzantium, then all the advances of England, and America, are "really" Byzantine and hence Russian. In other words, this elaborate theory is nothing more than an attempt to bolster the battered and broken shell of the formerly great Russian state, and to claim for Mother Russia a small piece of the reflected glory of a world that passed it by.

Following the publication of Fomenko's book in English his publisher, Delamere Resources Ltd, announced that it had received "innumerable venomous complaints with unprintable undertones." To respond to the critics, Delamere issued a press release in January 2004, challenging scientists to disprove Fomenko's assertions. They offered a $10,000 "cash reward" to anyone who could prove that any human artifacts existed prior to the eleventh century CE. There was one catch, however: the "proof" could not use "archaeological, dendrochronological, paleographical and carbon methods." (9) Thus having safely excluded all scientific methods of dating and most historical methods, they confidently demanded that all proof be of the same "academic level as the heretic Fomenko." (10)

Though Fomenko's theories hold no water and are easily disproved, it has not stopped the public from buying his books or indulging in speculation. Russian chess master Gary Kasparov became a willing convert, opining that Fomenko's theories were a revelation because there "were too many discrepancies and contradictions that could not be explained within the framework of traditional chronology." (11) While it is exhilarating to think that accepted knowledge could be wrong, and that humanity is on the verge of a major revision of its history, in fact the entire enterprise is constructed on a foundation of flaws, inconsistencies, and errors.

References

(1.) Boese, Alan. n.d. "Jean Hardouin." The Museum of Hoaxes. http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hardouin.html

(2.) Fomenko, A.T. and G.V. Nosovskij. n.d. "New Chronology and New Concept of the English History: British Empire as a Direct Successor of Byzantine-Roman Empire." http://lib.ru/FOMENKOAT/engltr.txt

(3.) Ibid.

(4.) Ibid.

(5.) Ibid.

(6.) Ibid.

(7.) Crane, Gregory (ed.). n.d. Project Perseus Latin Dictionary. Tufts University. http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/resolveform?lang=Latin

(8.) Fomenko and Nosovskij, op. cit.

(9.) Delamere Resources. "Publisher Announces 10,000 USD Cash Reward." PR Web, http://www.prweb.com/releases/2004/1/prweb98387.php

(10.) Ibid.

(11.) Kasparov, Gary. n.d. "Mathematics of the Past." New Tradition. http://www.new-tradition.org/view-garry-kasparov.htm

© 2005 Jason Colavito. All rights reserved.

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hate organized religeon?

patasapien — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 07:42:03 GMT

I'm reposting this here after my original post elsewhere, because I thought you might find it interesting.
I realize it is very in to hate "Christians" and that some of what I have to say here may not be popular, but give it a read all the same.
I trust that responses (if there are any) will not be common...since of course this IS the tribe for out of the box thinkers.

On joiners to legitimate establishments, technicality and the individual agenda

There is a lot of anti religious sentiment these days, everywhere I go I hear something new, something poorly thought out, and almost universally something very angry.

While I understand the source and cause of this rising public opinion, I am unfortunately bound to examine the larger scope of things.

Any institution may be formed upon the foundation of great intentions (not to reference the old idiom, since great intentions do not really pave the road to hell) and high ideals. And any institution may flourish and remain true to these ideals for a time...perhaps indefinitely...but then, something else may also happen.

As the institution begins to flourish and profit from the addition of quality to it's system of ideals, persistence, and through the contribution of effort, others begin to see this success and take notice.

Now we must ask ourselves "Who are these others?". The answer is not simple. This collection of people who initially take notice when the success of an institution first gains public recognition are exactly that, "A Collection". They are made of several types and I will not produce an exhaustive list here today, however I would like to call attention to one specific sort. This is the fellow, or the Gal who is persistently looking for the answer to his/her issues outside himself/herself, we'll call em Mr.X. While many others seek to really understand things, or at least just see things one way and are bound to flock with others who see things their way, this one is busy trying not to do ANY OF THAT...who knows why, however Egoism and a lack of maturity are likely culprits.

Now , here we have a successful institution, and since Mr. X doesn't particularly have a well developed sense of self (we know he doesn't because he would have to look for his answers inside to get that), but somewhere in the depths of things he won't ever admit to himself or others he knows he (or she) needs one and craves it endlessly. Mr. X is lost in the crowd without a face or an identity or any sense of being, and doesn't know how to get one. SO, suddenly confronted with the awesome identity of the successful institution(pick one) Mr. X sees exactly what he is looking for, and feels it too.

It's something with a strong identity, and he wants more than anything to be a part...Only he wants it for the wrong reasons...and while that may not seem like a problem it is.

SO, at this point Mr.X (either consciously or unconsciously ) makes a decision...and it of course involves running from himself some more, and joining in...because "it feels right"...of course it does, the group has an identity and and Mr. X doesn't. Now if we pretend Mr.X is the only Mr. X doing this , or at least the first, then we can continue without the assumption that he has actual "moral support" in what he's doing (which is actually immoral), (that is assuming he can't rely on others to help him keep his cover so as to preserve their own) he has only to let go and say what others say, do what others do, and the magic of the mindless group will sweep over him.

Now ... In the mean time those who founded the group (usually very original thinkers with very well developed identities) begin to get confused. Are their ideas at fault? Did they neglect something? Are their leadership skills lacking? How can they tear their hearts out for what they believe in a little bit more so that their vision can be a reality, and so that they and the others who see things in the same or similar ways can just continue to add quality to what they believe in?

But the increasingly deflating and malfunctioning institution is damned...at least for now, and it sinks under the weight of many many Mr.Xs, collectively poisening the very institution they so recently adored by transforming it into a mockery of what it was, or if it tries to fight back a travesty of micromanagement. As the institution crumbles the and the members begin to disperse this individual once again feels the sickening thud of the loss of identity...and the cycle begins again.

Mr.X exists in ever institution.

From Politics to Organized Religion and even Marriage. Wherever there is a successful major institution of any sort there too you will find Mr.X. Many large cooperations of today are FILLED, if not entirely MADE UP OF Mr. X....Being Mr. X is encouraged in the Corporate Environment, and in most other power seeking institutions where it seems beneficial to those in charge to posses mindless staff, happy to take on the company mantle.

To come full circle, I submit to you all...that Organized religion is only a belief system, and when the sanctity of a belief system is jeopardized so too are all others, but it is not any single formal group who is at fault here...it is Mr.X... It is anyone man or woman who invests more of their sense of identity in any group then they do in themselves. It is everyone who decides to ignore the emptiness inside where they should find themselves and and instead decides to look outside for the answer, for a fix for the pain, just for today.

When you turn on a group or an institution without having real reasons, or without REALLY thinking ti through, thinking about the people and their lives, what you are doing is not significantly different from a sort of racism, or antisemitic sentiment in Nazi Germany. You are blindly dehumanizing, and worst of all you are becoming Mr.X, because you are searching for the enemy , the source of your anger...when in the end...it is you who is most responsible for your anger.

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the Outsider Effect

water_muse — Tue, 14 Aug 2007 01:42:34 GMT

One I found today... rather insightful I thought.

http://www.2020network.ca/index.php/The_Outsider_Effect

Unfortunately my experience in the software industry is not what this author is talking about with regard to that industry -- my experience with software has been largely what he describes about an industry in which deviation from the "norm" is punished and it's very difficult to get any new ideas into the flow. Granted, that's my own experience and it may have a lot to do with my particular place in the software community at large. Who knows, I may feel very differently about it if I had been early on the Ruby on Rails train.

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The Shift - a movie created by a movement

☼Sunshine☼ — Mon, 13 Aug 2007 18:47:10 GMT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOzG0z1K3Do

That's WAYYYYYYYYYY outside any box ...:)

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what box?

mike — Wed, 27 Dec 2006 09:36:40 GMT

all I see is a bunch of flattened cardboard lying on the ground.

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How come nobody does nothing ?

playuh — Thu, 26 Jul 2007 19:29:13 GMT

My fav tribe has been taken over by troublemakers.
http://99thpercentile.tribe.net/?_click_path=Application%5Btribe%5D.Tribe%5B65793122-541d-4d5d-a4f4-6e9485496734%5D
why do people just let it happen ?

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Taking it Global

☼Sunshine☼ — Tue, 24 Jul 2007 06:21:31 GMT

Welcome to the TakingITGlobal Organizations database, where you can learn about hundreds of amazing organizations and what they're working on!

http://www.takingitglobal.org/resources/orgs/index.html?searchonly=orgs&limit=true&CatID=0&LanguageID=0&CountryRegion=0&StateID=0&Keyword=&Search=Search

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Can you actually "think" about being out of the box?

edo — Wed, 20 Jun 2007 17:29:31 GMT

Or are you out of the box by not relying on your mind to function from?

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Jesus Christ was born in 1053AD?

Sat, 02 Jun 2007 21:45:31 GMT

Author: Anatoly T. Fomenko
"History: Fiction or Science?"
Subtitle: "Chronology 1"
ISBN: 2-913621-01-5

Paperback, 628 pages,
446 illustrations
Genre: Non-Fiction (History)
Distributors: Ingram,
Baker & Taylor, Amazon.com
Size: 7.5" by 9.25"

Publisher:
Delamere Resources Ltd,
19 Peel Rd., Douglas,
Isle of Man, IM1 4LS

Contact, books for review:
Franck Tamdhu,
Phone: 33-687-61-38-76
Email: history@mithec.com

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Jesus Christ Was Born In 1053 AD And Crucified In 1086 AD - Scientific Research Points To The Evidence

Unbelievable? Not since the release of the flabbergasting oeuvre entitled "History: Fiction or Science?". This book crowns 30 years of extensive research performed by the eminent mathematician Anatoly Fomenko and his colleagues. It is also the first volume in seven comprising "Chronology", the fundamental tractate that exposes and expounds the numerous inveracities of traditional history.

In Chapter I we are reminded of when the contemporary chronological scale was created and by whom, with the culprits named as the XVI-XVII century clergy. We also learn that the consensual model of history had prominent critics ever since its creation - among those such names as Sir Isaac Newton and Jean Hardouin, the court librarian of Louis XIV, the Sun King of France.

The author dissects every historical age most scrupulously and analyses the data from every source imaginable - Roman and Egyptian chronology take a good beating; Bracciolini and Petrarch take the blame for creating the legend of a mythical Classical age that never was.

The Biblical events are brought a lot closer to us both historically and geographically. The Biblical Jerusalem is identified with the mediaeval Constantinople. The New and the Old Testament swap their positions on the chronological scale, both exposed as referring to mediaeval events. We experience a profound historical paradigm shift even before we're through with Chapter I.

In Chapters II, III and IV the author summons astronomy and statistics to back his theories - apparently, there is abundant astronomical proof for the author's theories in the ancient Egyptian zodiacs, Ptolemy's Almagest, and the Biblical Book of Revelation, demonstrating that all datings of 'ancient' eclipses are blatantly untrue.

Chapters V and VI contain in-depth descriptions of the research methods used as well as the most meticulous rendition of the global chronological map with its numerous errors and glitches explained in a very level-headed manner - one doesn't have to be a mathematician to comprehend.

Finally, in Chapter VII we learn more about confusion of the Antiquity and the Middle Ages, and how the division between the two is merely imaginary. Should this fail to suffice, the appendices contain all sorts of factual information to appease the sceptics as well as provide converts with deadly ammunition for keeping the critics well at bay.

Conclusion: "History: Fiction or Science?" is the first successful attempt to transform history from fiction into a rocket science, therefore a must read for everyone who isn't entirely indifferent to human history - and possibly also for those who are.

Find out more at: http://history.mithec.com

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The Widowed Bride.

Sat, 02 Jun 2007 13:44:29 GMT

http://www.roytaylorministries.com
by Roy Taylor.
AMERICAN PIE, THE PROPHETIC DIRGE INTERPRETED

First I will interpret the song 'American Pie,' and then I will interpret the 'Song of Moses,' as recorded in Deuteronomy 32. American Pie's lyrics are written in word symbols, because the hidden prophecy of the song, is only intended for those who have an 'ear to hear.' In other words, if the Biblical symbols of American Pie have been revealed to you, then you will then easily understand the hidden message of the song.

The word symbols used in American Pie, talk of America's past, present, and future. It tells of the true history of America, not the lies that most Americans have been taught to believe, by the satanic controlled anti-Christ media.

THE SONG AMERICAN PIE IS ABOUT AMERICA

In Deuteronomy 31:29, God said that a 'song' would testify against the descendants of Israel, in the latter days;

Deut 31:29 For I know that after my death ye will utterly corrupt yourselves, and turn aside from the way which I have commanded you; and evil will befall you in 'THE LATTER DAYS'; because ye will do evil in the sight of the LORD, to provoke him to anger through the work of your hands.

The hidden prophecy in the song of Moses is recorded in chapter 32, of Deuteronomy. It is a prophecy that testifies against America in these LATTER DAYS. In time, as you learn this song, you will see, and understand, that the 'Song of Moses,' and the song 'American Pie' are saying the same thing and both are addressed to America.'
If you understand Bible prophecy concerning America, and also the word symbols, used in American Pie, you will then be able to interpret the hidden message of, American Pie. To help you interpret the hidden prophecy of this song I am going to have to start in the middle, of the first verse of American Pie, to give you some of the keys, that you will need, to unlock the wondrous message of this prophetic song.

WHO IS THE WIDOWED BRIDE?

Verse One's lyrics say;

A long, long time ago, I can still remember how that music used to make me smile. I knew that if I had my chance that I could make those people dance, and maybe they'd be happy for a while. But February made me shiver, with every paper I'd deliver. Bad news on the doorstep, I couldn't take one more step, something touched me deep inside, the day the music died. I can't remember if I cried, when I read about his 'WIDOWED BRIDE' but something touched me deep inside the day the music died---

We can first start off by assuming that, the 'widowed bride' is America, since the song is singing about America in the feminine sense, and notice also that America's title is 'Miss America' proclaiming her unmarried condition.
You can see this unmarried condition from the first verse, where it says, "I can't remember if I cried when I read about his "Widowed Bride." Notice here that the boy was reading about America who is, as the lyrics say 'His' widowed bride. It was bad news he was reading about, because the following lyrics of the same verse say that the news was bad it says;

"But February made me shiver, with every paper I'd deliver. 'BAD NEWS' on the door step, I couldn't take one more step."
These lyrics of the first verse say that he was delivering BAD NEWS about America who was ' HIS' 'Widowed Bride. This bad news was 'bad news being on her doorstep.' The same verse continues and says "I can't remember if I cried, when I read about 'HIS WIDOWED BRIDE." In later verses, as this prophecy unfolds, we will find out what this bad news on the doorstep is.

WHO IS THE 'HIS' SPOKEN OF IN AMERICAN PIE?

After the boy read the bad news about 'HIS' widowed bride' he started singing about his own death, he then started to sing;

So, Bye Bye Miss American Pie. Drove my Chevy to the levee. But the levee was dry. Them good ole-boys were drinking, whiskey and rye singing, "This'll be the day that I die, this'll be the day that I die."
According to this verses own admission we can now see that 'THE WIDOWED BRIDE IS AMERICA!
The song refers to America as 'HIS widowed bride,' and says that her title is 'Miss' indicating that she is single, unmarried, and also that she is widowed. This first verse says also that she is to be married to someone since the lyrics of American Pie say that 'she is also a BRIDE.'

WHO WILL AMERICA MARRY?
Then the question we then want to ask is; "Who is America to be married to?"

The only information we have is the word symbol 'HIS' from the lyric's in the first verse, where it says, 'HIS widowed bride.' So according to this first verse, America is 'HIS WIDOWED BRIDE.'

I can't remember if I cried, when I read about 'HIS WIDOWED BRIDE' but something touched me deep inside the day the music died---
To find out who the 'HIS' is, that Miss America is to marry, we will now go to the lyric's of the third verse of the song American Pie, and that verse will tell us who he is, it says;

(NOTE-the word 'HIS' is really a word symbol):

Verse three says;

Now for ten years, we've been on our own, and moss grows fat on a rolling' stone. But that's not how it used to be, when the jester sang for the king and queen, in a coat be borrowed from James Dean, in a voice that came from you and me. Oh! And while the 'KING' was looking down, the jester stole 'HIS THORNY CROWN.' The courtroom was adjourned, no verdict was returned. And while Lenin read a book on Marx, the quartet practiced in the park. And we sang dirges in the dark, the day the music died. We were singing,

JESUS WORE THE 'THORNY CROWN' OF AMERICAN PIE!

Since we have no other information that will tell us who the 'HIS' of the first verse is, we will have to go to the song American Pie for an explanation. We can find out through the song's own interpretation that the 'HIS' in this song wore a 'crown of thorns' (NOTE-thorny crown), and also that he was a King. The third verse says;

"And while the 'KING' was looking down the jester stole HIS THORNY CROWN
According to the Christian Bible, 'the King who wore a crown of thorns was, Jesus Christ.' The Bible says that Jesus wore a crown of thorns;

Matthew 27:
27: Then the soldiers of the governor took Jesus into the common hall, and gathered unto him the whole band of soldiers.

28: And they stripped him, and put on him a scarlet robe.

29: And when they had platted a 'CROWN OF THORNS', they put it upon his head, and a reed in his right hand: and they bowed the knee before him, and mocked him, saying, Hail, King of the Jews!
Most of the word symbols used in 'American Pie' come directly or indirectly from, 'the Christian Bible.' So then, according to Matthew 27:27-29 the King (NOTE-the 'HIS') who wore a crown of thorns was none other than Jesus. The word symbol "HIS" in verse one, and in verse three, can be none other than the 'Jesus of the Bible.'

AMERICAN PIE SAYS THAT JESUS IS A KING, THE BIBLE ALSO SAYS THAT JESUS IS A KING!
The Bible says that Jesus is a 'King,' it says;

Jn 18:37 Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a 'KING' then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that 'I AM A KING.' To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.

Jn 19:12 And from thenceforth Pilate sought to release him: but the Jews cried out, saying, If thou let this man go, thou art not Caesar's friend: whosoever maketh ' HIMSELF A KING' speaketh against Caesar.

Jn 19:15 But they cried out, Away with him, away with him, crucify him. Pilate saith unto them, Shall I crucify your 'KING?' The chief priests answered, We have no king but Caesar.

VERSE ONE OF AMERICAN PIE SAYS THAT AMERICA IS THE FUTURE BRIDE OF JESUS, THE BIBLE SAYS THIS ALSO!
Verse one says;

When I read about 'HIS WIDOWED BRIDE; but something touched me deep inside the day the day the music died.
According to the lyric's of this first verse, 'Miss America' is the future 'BRIDE OF JESUS' and that America has been widowed at some time in the past. The 'HIS' that America is to be married to is the 'Jesus' of verse three. To repeat the 'HIS' in verse one, according to the lyrics of verse three, is Jesus.

According to American Pie, America is to be married to Jesus in the future.

AMERICA IS THE WIDOWED BRIDE OF AMERICAN PIE AND THE BIBLE

What does this song mean when it says that America is 'widowed?' The song says that America is a WIDOWED BRIDE. Common sense says that, 'for a woman to be widowed, her husband would have had to 'die' somewhere in her past. Notice that this song 'American Pie' refers to America collectively and, symbolically as in 'the feminine sense.' Who was white Anglo-Saxon America's husband? Where and how did her husband die?

To answer these questions, we will have to go into Bible history, and into secular history, way back 'to Ancient Israel,' and trace ancient Israel through time, up to the present day. This will tell us the location where ancient Israel's descendants reside today. This research will also tell us what 'Ancient Israel has to do with the white Anglo-Saxon-America of today.

We will also learn the story of why 'Miss America's' husband died, and why she is referred to as a 'widow' and a bride to Jesus. We will now research and study the history of ancient Israel, and it's relation to the white Anglo-Saxon race, of America.

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[SOLDIER4CHRIST]S.A PROPHESY??NEEDS PRAYER

Wed, 30 May 2007 09:36:48 GMT

Re: [SOLDIER4CHRIST] SOUTH AFRICA PROPHECY??NEEDS PRAYER

please dont send me this mails

"Darlene.Khan" <darlenekhan@...> wrote:
I am really praying over this. Pray for South Africa.

DARRELL FORMAN wrote:
From (DARRELL FORMAN)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 13:12:48 -0700
To:
Subject:

From: "Jim Bramlett"

South African prophecies coming to pass?
Jim Bramlett
May 29, 2007
Dear friends:

The following interesting message was posted this morning by a South
African, Haley Sacca, on the Five Doves Web site at
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/may2007/hayleys529.htm

Jim
__________________________________
WARRIORS, PLEASE PRAY FOR SO. AFRICA..Darrell

I write from South Africa concerning a very prominent prophet we have in our history. The bible says fear the man who prophecies and it comes to pass and fear not the man who prophecies and it doesn't come to pass.

Prophet Van Rensburg was born in 1864 and foretold 700 prophecies
concerning our country and abroad. They all to date have come to pass.

Amongst his last prophecies he said that when it becomes cold in South
Africa like it hasn't been for years, a national strike will take place
which will cripple the country. At this time a prominent political
figure in our country will die and he will be placed in a glass coffin
so people will mourn for him 7 days. He says the strike will not cease
and lead to civil war and when this politician dies the black people in
our country will within an hour of his death barricade the main cities
and slaughter all the white people. He says at this time Europe will
start to boil and WW3 will come on the heels of these events. He says
only the true Afrikaner will survive as moments before they will be
supernaturally taken to a place of safety. He believed the Afrikaner
were God's chosen people of South Africa. After this destruction and
death like the world has never seen will follow,

I enclose Adriaan Snyman's book on his prophecies and a news clip that
states when Nelson Mandela dies they will put him in a glass coffin at
the Union Buildings Pretoria as befitting a world known statesman.
(Attachments not included here. To access two of them, see Web site
above.)

We are currently in the midst of the coldest winter in many years with
56 all time new weather records for our country. On Monday 2nd June the entire public sector goes on strike. This will cripple our country. We
are talking about 4 million+ not working.

It seems that the prophet's words are coming true and that God appointed someone in our country to give us a warning. A friend of mine got an email last week saying that people must fast and pray because in the next 5 days as angels are going to appear to people everywhere.

Are we on the brink of the great tribulation/rapture? Everyone has been
saying this is the year of the rapture, perhaps that time is now.

All I know is this week coming seems to be one that will bring a lot of
change, if we are to believe a man of God who could only read the bible
who predicted 700 prophecies and they all came to pass.

I'm not a Jew so I can't look for a Jewish sign (The borders of Israel
being surrounded), I am South African and I can only look to the signs
given us by a God-fearing man, as to the times and seasons we are living
in.

May our redemption be drawing very nigh!! Haleluljah!

Shalom
Hayley
(Attachments not included.)
=========================

God bless,
In His service forever,
Darrell

Jesus said.."Therefore go and make disciples in all the nations,
baptizing them into the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the
Holy Spirit, and then teach these new disciples to obey all the commands
I have given you; and be sure of this-- that I am with you always
, even to the end of the world.
OUR GREAT COMMISSION

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I s this the complete flower of life?

Sun, 06 May 2007 13:29:55 GMT

http://thecompletefloweroflife.blogspot.com/

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the invitation

SpiritAsJeff — Sat, 21 Oct 2006 14:24:19 GMT

It doesn't interest me what you do for a living.
I want to know what you ache for and if you dare to dream of meeting your heart's longing.
It doesn't interest me how old you are.
I want to know if you will risk looking like a fool for love for your dream, for the adventure of being alive.
It doesn't interest me what planets are squaring your moon...
I want to know if you have touched the center of your own sorrow if you have been opened by life's betrayals or have become shriveled and closed from fear of further pain.
I want to know if you can sit with pain mine or your own without moving to hide it
or fade it, or fix it.
I want to know if you can be with joy, mine or your own, if you can dance with wildness
and let the ecstasy fill you to the tips of your fingers and toes without cautioning us to
be careful, be realistic, remember the limitations of being human.
It doesn¹t interest me if the story you are telling me is true.
I want to know if you can disappoint another to be true to yourself.
If you can bear the accusation of betrayal and not betray your own soul.
If you can be faithless and therefore trustworthy.
I want to know if you can see Beauty even when it is not pretty, every day.
And if you can source your own life from its presence.
I want to know if you can live with failure, yours and mine, and still stand at the edge of the lake and shout to the silver of the full moon, "Yes!".
It doesn¹t interest me to know where you live or how much money you have.
I want to know if you can get up after the night of grief and despair, weary and bruised to the bone, and do what needs to be done to feed the children.
It doesn't interest me who you know, or how you came to be here.
I want to know if you will stand in the center of the fire with me and not shrink back.
It doesn't interest me where or what or with whom you have studied.
I want to know what sustains you from the inside when all else falls away.
I want to know if you can be alone with yourself and if you truly like the company you keep in the empty moments.

Oriah Mountain Dreamer

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my inventions need your help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ganjatron — Thu, 22 Mar 2007 16:07:25 GMT

I have several ground breaking ideas/inventions that I would love to share with the world. However, because of their nature, I do not want some greedy bastard to get a hold of them and put a patent on it and prevent my ideas from being freely implemented by myself and/or others. I wouldn’t mind if someone built hundreds or thousands or millions of these (It would actually make me VERY happy) and sold them even if their price was outrageous and I never saw a penny, I just don’t want anyone to be able to prevent anyone else from producing them and I do want the credit for my ideas, even if I don‘t want the money. In order to achieve this, would I have to hold a the patent for these technologies? If so are there special patents that don’t restrict others from making or selling these things, but at the same time prevent them from legally taking credit for MY ideas? Some of these ideas/inventions may already be patented but, I’m to afraid of in the process of trying to find out if they are, I‘ll leak to much info and someone might steal them! I know this is probably just paranoia but, It’s happened a lot in history and these inventions are by their simplistic nature, very profound.

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my tribe art project needs your comments

bragitta — Sun, 22 Apr 2007 18:02:54 GMT

I am starting an art project on my tribe page
creating art pieces and asking questions
and the comments that it receives will inspire the next question and art piece

so
would you like to join this art project??
feel free to hop on over to my tribe page and leave a comment or two
even become a new friend

thanks
bragitta

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NEW! Tribe Review: Human Resource Management

Lightgiver — Fri, 20 Apr 2007 16:25:40 GMT

Join at:

http://tribes.tribe.net/hrm

"Human Resource Management (HRM) is a strategic and coherent approach to the management of an organisation's most VALUED assert - the people working there who individually and collectively contribute to the achievement of its goals" (Armstrong, 1999)

As a student of business and HRM for over 10 years, I firmly believe, an organisations most important asset rests with its people. People far out weigh any other resource. If the people potential is tapped into, and used in the right way, it can be of immense benefit both for the organisation and its people.

This is a forum for HR professionals, students, researchers and lecturers to discuss all aspects of Human Resource Management (HRM). Feel free to post your views or critiques on theories, concepts, models, policies, processes, practices, activities of HRM. Maybe you are a HRM professional and found something that’s worked in your organisation? Maybe you've studied a particular concept/theory and you want to share your views on that? Maybe you have your own theory? - Feel free to discuss because through discussion we all learn something.

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Someone told me that I was perfect for this tribe

Tue, 17 Apr 2007 14:46:38 GMT

because of the work I am doing now. So I thought I would check it out. Although I dont think caring for people is out of the box, I guess the way I am doing it is. So I am new here and I invite you to check out my blog and see hor far outside the box I am. I dont know you tell me.

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needing comments /art project on my tribe page

bragitta — Mon, 02 Apr 2007 04:17:22 GMT

I am starting an art project
where I am creating art pieces and asking questions
and depending on the comments I recieve will inspire the next art piece i create

wondering if you would add a comment or 2 to add to the interactive aspect of my art project
and befriend this art experiment of mine

thanks
bragitta

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FREE ENERGY

Willy — Sat, 03 Mar 2007 17:32:14 GMT

this is outside the box i think. i joined tribes a long time ago but i never post and rarely come in here. [due to time.] i recently came across a technology that i think may be of interest to people that are looking to start communities like these. i'm not a salesman for anyone and i'm sure you all can look into this yourselves and make up your own minds so i will just give you a couple of links that will inform you of this technology. the truth is, i don't know if any of this is viable, i only know that if it is, it will be important to get it going. free energy defies some current laws of physics so it does not get a lot of backing from scientists or energy companies. this first link is an explanation of the n-machine by it's inventor, brian de palma using a phenomena that was discovered by faraday in 1831.

depalma.pair.com/Absurdity...Field.html

this next link is the test preformed on the sunburst n-machine by Robert Kincheloe mentioned in the 1st link.

www.rexresearch.com/kinchelo...che~1.htm

this link is a company that has devised an updated version of the sunburst machine that they claim produces 5 times the amount of electricity that is takes to run it. i did mention it defies a few laws of physics didn't i? i may have neglected to say if defies the laws of thermodynamics and conservation of energy.

environment.guardian.co.uk/ener....html

anyway, as i said, i am no salesman and i make no claims about this technology other than it sounds reasonable to me. if it is what it clams to be, it could be a solution to many of our current problems. my goal is to make certain that if it is viable, it doesn't get pushed aside by people that have too many invested interests that would conflict with this. i just recently discovered that a company has been making larger versions of this [a small community size.] for the past few years and already have installed 60 in service for over 18 months. so check this out if you would and if anyone has already got info on this, i would be interested in it. like i said, i can't vouch for this in any way except it's potential is staggering if it's viable.

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